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John Vogel's avatar

I spent 20 years being overtly hostile to marketing and business thinking, intentionally acting against that mindset artistically, and then over the past few years have gone on a long run of reading marketing and business books. And I can say with confidence that I still hate it as much as I did on day one.

The only way that I can think to integrate it into practice is to make the art first without thinking about any of that, and then figure out how to find the people that might be into it. But I'm also working on the assumption that conventional thinking about what can gain an audience are generally more narrow than what's actually possible. I mean, if Merzbow can find an audience by doing blistering noise music, there should be people out there who are into just about anything.

Connecting with those people amongst the competing clamor is always the challenge, and it's important to remember that popularity doesn't translate into money. I'm really trying to figure out ways of doing this that feel authentic, and it's tough to do that sometimes because of how much I hate the hustle aspect. And I should point out that I still haven't figured out how to profit from art.

Also, your original essay is from the same issue to which I submitted a Weird Music excerpt, introducing us for the first time. And I'm now in a similar place to where you were in 2010. I have an unstarted Substack post title "The Slow Turn" sitting in my drafts about this particular transition for me, which has been a progression throughout my adult life. I'll probably return to this comment to mine for nuggets!

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Tiffany Chu's avatar

I wrote a comment and then accidentally closed the window.. Typical.

Anyways, I agree, Martha. I've always hated the entrepreneur and marketing side of authorship. Back in my naive days, I had the Van Gogh mindset of doing art for the love of art, but I remembered him sleeping in haystacks and starving a lot of the time. It's a delicate balance to survive, play the game, while not selling our souls.

As for the AI quandary, you bring up exactly why it fails in the human arena (among the concerns you've previously brought up). There's no room for nuance.

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